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June 08, 2005
Identity systems change the client/server decision
[Brad Ideas | Crazy ideas, inventions, essays and links from Brad Templeton] There have been many efforts at internet “identity” systems, such as Microsoft Passport, Liberty Alliance, and a variety of others. A recent conference was held in SF, though I didn’t go, but I thought it was time to put forward one important idea.
Some slightly related from Technorati and Google.
[Ask Bjørn Hansen] OS X and identity notes: OpenID - properly distributed identity system. I'm going to make the new identity/single sign on server I'm making support this in the next few days. (It's going to be a replacement for http://auth.perl.org/).
[HYPERGURU] OpenID: an actually distributed identity system: * SAML — We’d like to use the parts of SAML (from the Liberty Alliance) that are appropriate, but the spec as a whole isn’t an answer. Part of our OpenID requirements is that there’s an AJAX version, which means the only type of RPC request we can do from the client to a remote host is a javascript or iframe’d request, and not everybody chooses to require SSL, which means the SAML bindings as-is won’t work in that case, and we’ll have to use our own JavaScript SAML wrapper at least in that case.
[Identityblog.com] Kim Cameron's Identity Weblog: So when Kim decided to do something about digital identity, he used the same mindset that he used for the idea of a meta-directory, because he saw the same market conditions in this area: lots of incompatible digital identity systems, that prevent everybody from interacting with most other people just like stovepipe directory systems would prevent one person from accessing a printer defined in another. In the identity space, not only do we have Microsoft Passport, Liberty Alliance, SXIP, Identity Commons, and our LID, but thousands, or maybe far more, home-grown account and user registration systems. In Kim's view, while there may be advantages that one of those systems has versus others, the real problem is fragmentation of digital identity systems, just like fragmentation of directory systems back then. So the core idea for InfoCard is to be a meta-identity system, with the word "meta" meaning the same thing as it does in the term meta-directory system.
[Netmesh.info] Johannes Ernst's Blog: So when Kim decided to do something about digital identity, he used the same mindset that he used for the idea of a meta-directory, because he saw the same market conditions in this area: lots of incompatible digital identity systems, that prevent everybody from interacting with most other people — just like stovepipe directory systems would prevent one person from accessing a printer defined in another. In the identity space, not only do we have Microsoft Passport, Liberty Alliance, SXIP, Identity Commons, and our LID, but thousands, or maybe far more, home-grown account and user registration systems. In Kim's view, while there may be advantages that one of those systems has versus others, the real problem is fragmentation of digital identity systems, just like fragmentation of directory systems back then. So the core idea for InfoCard is to be a meta-identity system, with the word "meta" meaning the same thing as it does in the term meta-directory system.
[Netmesh.info] Johannes Ernst's Blog: So when Kim decided to do something about digital identity, he used the same mindset that he used for the idea of a meta-directory, because he saw the same market conditions in this area: lots of incompatible digital identity systems, that prevent everybody from interacting with most other people — just like stovepipe directory systems would prevent one person from accessing a printer defined in another. In the identity space, not only do we have Microsoft Passport, Liberty Alliance, SXIP, Identity Commons, and our LID, but thousands, or maybe far more, home-grown account and user registration systems. In Kim's view, while there may be advantages that one of those systems has versus others, the real problem is fragmentation of digital identity systems, just like fragmentation of directory systems back then. So the core idea for InfoCard is to be a meta-identity system, with the word "meta" meaning the same thing as it does in the term meta-directory system.
[Blogs.msdn.com] Kirk Allen Evans' Blog : Sun and Microsoft moving towards digital ...: The transcript of the Sun and Microsoft news conference is available online, ... GREG PAPADOPOULOS: We expect Passport and Liberty to work better together. ...
[Theserverside.net] New Liberty Alliance President: Microsoft to Join the Alliance?: Goodman: I can't speak to a whole lot of the history through personal experience. I think that the rivalry between Passport and Liberty federation standards has certainly been kept warm by some of the technical media. Yes, there are developers who look at it that way, but the alliance is a lot more than just the single sign-on stuff and the alliance was working on standards; Passport was a service. Microsoft makes its own decisions with regard to businesses they'll pursue, and Passport is a business [for Microsoft].
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Posted at June 8, 2005 11:29 AM
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